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all right hi our site shatters we have

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spent plenty of time in past episodes

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exploring the potential influence of

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both magic and the immortal archetypal

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beans it can conjure up and although

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many of us can see there's something

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there

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the line between otherworldly influence

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and potential coincidence often blurs

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too much to be sure what's what and as

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much as we might want to see things as

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black and white it does seem

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increasingly obvious that we're living

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in a world of grey so when we hear a

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story such as the Council of nine and

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realize that in the oh so strange year

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of 1947 prominent influential members of

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the upper crust were experiencing ritual

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contact with beans that claim to be

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ancient Egyptian gods poised to work

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their well through these elite liaisons

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I think we should pay attention and when

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someone's willing to make the case that

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in the words of today's guests we live

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in a world where a group of internet

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misfits me magic to celebrity madmen

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into the White House with the help of an

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ancient Egyptian deity I'd say that goes

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doubly so his name is al Carver and he's

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a thoughtful observer of mental

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phenomena student of esoteric philosophy

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and the author of the most prominent

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piece on today's strange subject the

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truth about Pepe the Frog and the cult

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of Keck he also has his first book on

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the power of personal magic coming out

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in January called you're imagining

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things so please make sure your seat

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backs and tray tables are in their full

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upright position because this is going

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to be one hell of a wild ride and

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there's no better guy to take us on it

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Aaron my man welcome to the higher side

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thank you thank you for having me that

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was a very well done introduction that's

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going to be a great talk yeah man I'm

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psyched and this is a real pleasure I'm

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sure many of us have seen this Pepe the

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Frog meme and how it's been associated

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with the Trump campaign and this all

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became even more fascinating when he

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actually won the election but like so

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many things worth exploring it's a

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tangled web of connections and

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synchronicities that has to be

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understood in its totality so where do

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we start where do you see the beginning

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of this story well there is a lot of

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groundwork to cover you're right first I

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think we should define what is a meme

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exactly sure so

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Richard Dawkins defines a meme as a gene

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of culture 4chan would say that memes

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are the blueprints of reality I think in

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this context a meme is sort of a device

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it's a communication device that

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encapsulate a big idea into one very

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easily digested soundbite or visual and

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we see that with Pepe the Frog is this

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sad looking funny green man and you can

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just project your own emotions onto him

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and you know where he's coming from and

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from his effectiveness he becomes so

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popular and that's how memes spread and

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multiply and at some point they start

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shaping culture so that's what we're

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memes here mm-hmm

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idea of truth in general because when

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philosophies a big theme is how slippery

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truth really is and that it's really

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hard to look at directly but you can

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come at it from side angles by poetry or

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art or various things that allude to

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truth that can't be seen directly and

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you could possibly say that memes are a

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modern form of that thread yeah very

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much so I mean you're right esoteric

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philosophers they would say the picture

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is the truth right you want the full

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truth of some occult principle you look

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at this picture yeah because you know

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picture says a thousand words we can

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condense these abstract ideas into a

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visual and it's somehow it's so much

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more easily understood I think that's

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because the subconscious minds it

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communicates in pictures yeah great

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point and so in this subject we're using

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the term meme magic I mean is this

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hyperbole or do you consider memes to be

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something with real power I do yes to

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both because I consider magic kind of

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hyperbole I think magic is much more

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mundane and people realize it's always

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going on like your attention is a form

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of magic

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and I think we'll get into that here and

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it'll make a little more sense as we go

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on yeah definitely and so let's get into

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this Pepe saga itself so where did this

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cartoon frog Pepe originate well he was

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drawn by a man named Matt Fury a cartoon

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artists but the thing with these memes

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is the origin it doesn't really matter

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so much as how they were co-opted so you

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started out as this happy frog

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when he was drawn by Matt but 4chan took

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them and they turned him into this sad

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frog and that's what resonated with

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people right on and it went kind of

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viral there and when did this all start

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believe right well Pepe came into

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popularity on 4chan about two years

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before that 2008 I'd say right on but

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it's important point because all this

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predates the election where all these

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things really come to a head so yeah

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it's important to date all this because

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it really makes it more significant when

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you see how the stuff was always there

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waiting to be connected mm-hmm mm-hm and

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there definitely seems to be a timeless

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quality to synchronicities and these

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kind of things we see they happen years

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before and sometimes we don't even get a

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clear picture of what it was until years

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after so those dates yeah they help to

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strengthen the case a little bit and we

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specifically I think a lot of people who

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are internet junkies should have some

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idea of what 4chan is I typically

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describe it as a more fringe version of

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Reddit but how would you describe it are

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there characteristics to the 4chan

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community that you think are relevant to

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the story here oh absolutely and that's

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a pretty good summation of fringe reddit

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something you have to talk about it's

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the actual mechanics of it I've shaped

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it so much so an image board is a forum

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right but you don't have to subscribe

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you don't have to make an account it's

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all anonymous

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so you just log on it to the site in

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your browser and you can post and you

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can participate in the discussion so

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that becomes the defining trait of us

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communities that you don't have

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identity and you actually there is the

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feature to give yourself a little you

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know username and doing that will bring

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so much hate in your direction because

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that's just not what this site is about

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every other place is about that this is

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about the collective it's not about you

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and to go further into the anonymous

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aspect of it can you tell us about how

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posts on 4chan are cataloged because

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that's pretty relevant to understanding

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some of the synchronicity here right

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yeah very relevant every post comes with

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a number attached to it and it's it's

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the number and the entire lineage of

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that board so what's important about

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that is you don't know your number

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before you have submitted the post right

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then this is very interesting it's kind

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of ingrained in us it seems to give

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mystic qualities to numbers and this is

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this is important groundwork to cover

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because it's part of imageboard culture

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is this reverence for the numbers letter

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repeating digits which are I think it's

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a one percent chance of getting a post

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where your numbers the last two numbers

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they call them right dubs and the other

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term as gets I believe right yeah yeah

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will it get see we have said it's a

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linear thing you don't know exactly what

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number you're going to get but you can

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see like five five five three hundred so

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everybody knows this big get is coming

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this sequence of repeating numbers

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that's you know five all the way down

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these image boards that people they can

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kind of calculate when a big get is

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coming and I mean people get so into it

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they'll structure their lives a little

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bit around this big get that's coming

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it's like almost like a season finale of

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a TV show mm-hmm yeah I really love this

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aspect and I didn't understand it at

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first either but it is so important to

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really get the strangeness of the story

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and the synchronicity is a law

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the way which some people consider

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synchronicity to be kind of the markers

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or the fingerprints of entity influence

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if you wanted to go that far and it also

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volume on 4chan you really can't plan

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much around your numbers and it

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basically becomes a random number

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generator in a sense couldn't you say

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absolutely yeah so that is an important

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aspect and so I guess what happened here

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is when it comes to posts that included

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the Pepe meme which was co-opted into

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the the pol subreddit which well the

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Paulo board which is like the political

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themed board politically incorrect right

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because this meme was being used in

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conjunction with Trump people started to

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notice an uncharacteristically high

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amount of gets and dubs is that accurate

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yeah you could argue that while we're

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talking about that anyway but you have

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to also understand that 4chan is has a

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lot of infighting within the cohesion so

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say we have a big get coming right five

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five five high five and people want to

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make that significant you know to

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whatever you also have a large amount of

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people that want to sabotage that get so

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you know they'll be posting Hillary will

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win and that'll upset everybody and

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people flock from all the other boards

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so you converge on I get and it's really

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just absolute chaos right yeah it's it's

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a lot more clear when you see it but it

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is interesting and so every post is

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given an eight digit number and because

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of the volume of post you can't do much

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planning to the number you want and this

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is important because on 6:19 so way back

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in June mm-hmm someone simply writes

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Trump will win and their post number was

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all 7s across the board and this is

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probably the biggest boldest example of

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this dub synchronicity right

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of Keck because by that point people had

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began to associate Pepe with this

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ancient frogface deity that just

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happened to share some traits of this

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image

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our culture right it's another example

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of that synchronicity outside of time

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thing because 4chan had been using the

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word Tek as an alternative to lol and

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they had no idea it was the name of God

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and then eventually they discover that

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it's the name of a frog face God and

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when they use this Pepe character so

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much and it's a frog face god of chaos

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in this place of absolute chaos right

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and then they dig into the pantheon of

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Egyptian war and they find that this bog

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do add the ancient Egyptian religion

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they attribute repeating digits to the

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creation of the universe it all stacks

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up and there's also a little bit more to

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be said about Keck I believe in terms of

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replacing LOL how did that come about it

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also ties into an aspect of the Korean

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language right right it's just a very

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obscure place to come from

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that's completely opposite to what it

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ended up being it comes from video games

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I think they had some you know some game

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developer put this little Easter Egg in

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where if you type lol with them out as

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Keck in World of Warcraft right which is

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a written version of like a snicker like

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a yeah yeah and that comes from the

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Korean language like you said right so

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all these kind of moving pieces come

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together and sort of culminate in the

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discovery that these things do allude to

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and relate to an ancient Egyptian god

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named Keck and when I hear Egyptian I

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always kind of perk up because I feel

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like they really knew their [\h__\h] oh yeah

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and it just adds another little bit of

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flavor to it wouldn't you say I mean you

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could say Egypt was just the birthplace

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of religion in general I mean the

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ancient occult philosophy of Hermeticism

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and the Cabal yawn they all stem from

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these wise masters of Egypt so it is

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very fascinating that Egypt of all

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places is what relates this back where

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this all goes back to right they seem to

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have the most defined archetypes when it

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comes to spirits or entities

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and that's just another part that makes

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it so interesting to me so heck is this

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frog headed deity a symbol of darkness

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he also represents obscurity and the

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unknown and thus chaos and also from

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what I read about Keck it seems that he

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was seen as that which occurred before

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light thus was known as the bringer in

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of light kind of like that Lucifer

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archetype the light bringer the

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trickster in a way huh yeah Loki yeah

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like we immediately attribute darkness

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to evil these days but it was not so

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black and white with their religion I

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get the impression it's the darkness

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before the dot right it's the fading of

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an era into a better era mm-hmm and you

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could draw real parallels to that

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description and the unexpected results

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of the last election right right and

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maybe the ends of I mean maybe jumping

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the gun here but for chance all this as

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the end of the globalist era because

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Trump was the chaos candidate you know

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opposing them yeah maybe this was the

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new dawn of a better age it's definitely

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interesting and so that's not all folks

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because also talk to us about the way

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Keck is written in hieroglyphs oh this

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is interesting

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fortune dug up this statue that was

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being manufactured and it was called a

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Keck statue and it had these hieroglyphs

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on the front and statue of a frog and

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the picture you really have to see it to

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get the full effect but it seems to be

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in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs the

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picture of a man sitting before a

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computer and then behind the computer is

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this spiral this strange magical it

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almost looks like a DNA strand yeah but

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it's important to note that this is

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actually incorrect this this does not

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spell Keck it spells Hecate his female

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equivalent but it's still very

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fascinating to me that that mistake was

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made like the manufacturer messed up and

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called this frog statue

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with they put an incorrect name on it

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mm-hmm that was going to be one of my

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questions for you because I've seen the

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frog statue it definitely is pretty on

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the nose in terms of looking like a

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person sitting at a computer if you're

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going to talk about some ancient

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Egyptian hieroglyphic representation of

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me magic a person at a computer with a

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DNA strand kind of squiggle would be it

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right but it was so on the nose I

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couldn't rule out the possibility that

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it was some kind of fabrication as a

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prank you know in fortunes tied to these

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things you just never know right right

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well not a prank and error but not on

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4chan sparked it was still out there in

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the universe so it's interesting how it

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still fits into this whole synchronicity

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puzzle right by way of that say DNA

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strand you could also look at it as the

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polling of the election as it goes on

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when we see the final picture of the way

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Donald Trump and Hillary's lines on the

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line graph go up and down it kind of

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closely resembles that stranding thing

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yeah yeah definitely and so we've gone

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through quite a bit of stuff for now but

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in a nutshell it seems like an ancient

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Egyptian frog headed deity that embodies

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chaos called Keck is using 4chan as a

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vessel to manifest its will is that

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where we're at yeah and this is just the

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setup I mean this is just act one I say

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yeah climax of act 1 we get the prophecy

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of Keck right so this sure ironic

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worship thing turns into wow this might

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be something really going on here

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okay and so where do we go from there

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what's the what's act 2 all right well

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now we see Trump win the primaries and

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we see this clash of titans rise up as

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he goes head-to-head with Hillary and I

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think you have to be a 4chan er to kind

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of understand the hatred that these

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people have for Hillary and because they

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see her as the Illuminati the globalists

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and there's so many more synchronicities

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around that the whole dark magic aspect

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of of these elites I mean we saw the

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spirit cooking zing pop up in the

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election right

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so it really just drove home this is

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already perception 4chan already had

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that Hillary was the devil and now we

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have this new spring of light opposing

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her they actually made it kind of a I'm

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sure you're familiar with Moloch yes I

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was going to ask you about Moloch

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because of course a lot of people talk

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about the elite and magic and it seems

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like Moloch in particular is a deity

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that the elite and the entrenched power

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in this country seem to venerate as well

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as the goddess Columbia which I've also

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heard is possibly synonymous with Moloch

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it gets kind of confusing but we even

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have a email from the Podesta leaks that

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a staffer writes to Hillary saying

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they're going to make a sacrifice to

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Moloch in the backyard so I am curious

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your thoughts on the idea that we might

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have a battle for influence between

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powerful ancient spirits and maybe a

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Moloch burst

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cack type of dynamic yeah well you can

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see the different ends of the spectrum

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they could represent with tech being the

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god of chaos you say Moloch oh god of

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evil but I could see Mohawk as the god

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of absolute control of absolute order

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because that's certainly the world the

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globalists want to establish they want a

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world of drones where there is no chaos

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anymore mmm-hmm so we see these two yet

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just both ends of the spectrum and their

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chosen champions Donald Trump and

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Hillary Clinton going head-to-head right

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so my next bullet point was the event of

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9/11 but is yeah thing to say before

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that I think that's the next yeah just

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the fact that people were praying to

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Keck now very seriously and they were

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asking for something very specific to as

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soon as Hillary's health started coming

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up in the media as soon as you started

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seeing the cracks and that facade there

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for sham really started specifically

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asking for happening from their guy they

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wanted to see Hillary's health be

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exposed on camera because as much as

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they were against Hillary

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they also despised the mainstream media

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which was clearly covering for her every

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turn right

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so you would think okay they want to

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wish something horrible on a woman maybe

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that's that's a nasty thing but I think

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more than that they really wanted to see

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the media eat their words mm-hmm

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so they were praying for a health crisis

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and September 11th comes and they're for

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all to see Hillary has this fainting

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spell and she's thrown in the ambulance

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like a slab of meat and 4chan is just

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ecstatic euphoric over this is manifest

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it is exactly what we wanted and there

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was also something L interesting about

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the date 911 I mean if I understand

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correctly this is the date that she

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actually spoke publicly about the Pepe

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meme right the day after the day after

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same 24-hour period right so that's just

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the icing on the cake is right after

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that of all things to happen she comes

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out with this ridiculous I mean for her

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to to make this a talking point in the

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campaign it was almost like tech was

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winking at us yes a yeah that was me and

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Here I am exactly if you're trying to

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gauge the influence of something and

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we're talking about a meme that started

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in the bowels of the Internet like a

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very obscure and off-the-beaten-path

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place and it rises all the way to the

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point that the candidate herself is

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discussing it and trying to raise

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awareness about it as if it's a threat

510
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yeah yeah so let's talk about that for a

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minute sure isn't it possible that this

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is an extension of this curse that 4chan

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has placed on Hillary that you know

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she's going to sabotage herself she's

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going to start talking about this

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ridiculous frog and get everybody just

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questioning her her lucidity at this

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point or does Hillary have like a corpse

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sorcerer on hand

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who's consulting her about this and

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saying we got an uncharged decidual we

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got to take down Pepe damn I didn't

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think about that but historically the

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elite have kept some occultists nearby

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right I mean what

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you make of it who knows anymore man but

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yeah it definitely is interesting and

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this whole saga does seem kind of

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textbook for just the way magic or

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entity influence seems to work there's

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always a bit of ambiguity it's never so

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absolute that critics wouldn't just

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doubt it but a deeper look will

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definitely make it think if you're being

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honest with yourself yeah and we have

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another synchronicity coming up with

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that line of thought - this probably

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thought it seems like it but you can't

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prove it right and I think that also

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happened in this nexus of the 911 date

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and the days right near it yeah we

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discover shadow lay this is another

543
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:34,499
thing outside of time that we bring back

544
00:23:42,350 --> 00:23:37,850
into this fold this record from the 80s

545
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:42,360
called magic sound hmm is the label of

546
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:44,850
all things for it to be called right and

547
00:23:51,259 --> 00:23:49,110
well of all things for the song to be

548
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:51,269
called the word printed on it is Pepe

549
00:23:57,619 --> 00:23:53,690
and is the name of the album Pepe in

550
00:24:00,560 --> 00:23:57,629
acronym form and it comes down to I

551
00:24:03,230 --> 00:24:00,570
think it's points emerging probably

552
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:03,240
entering you can see how that just fits

553
00:24:07,820 --> 00:24:05,610
right in with this what we're talking

554
00:24:12,019 --> 00:24:07,830
about units probably and also goes back

555
00:24:13,549 --> 00:24:12,029
to digits the the gets see fortune says

556
00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:13,559
that Keck speaks to them through dubs

557
00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:15,240
through repeating digits and it's a

558
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:17,399
probability thing it's a random number

559
00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:21,690
generator like you said so I think we

560
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:24,360
have an album called magic sound by a

561
00:24:30,109 --> 00:24:26,700
band called Pepe and the name of the

562
00:24:32,330 --> 00:24:30,119
song is shadow lay right and on the

563
00:24:34,669 --> 00:24:32,340
album is importance Mosport part there's

564
00:24:38,299 --> 00:24:34,679
a green frog printed on ya wit who's

565
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:38,309
holding a magic wand yes yeah oh damn

566
00:24:43,639 --> 00:24:40,799
and then if that wasn't enough for you

567
00:24:47,659 --> 00:24:43,649
the band's full album also has some

568
00:24:50,180 --> 00:24:47,669
interesting imagery yeah it's gots claw

569
00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:50,190
and a man a man facing a clock and we're

570
00:24:56,109 --> 00:24:52,289
looking at the man top down and he's a

571
00:24:58,879 --> 00:24:56,119
fair-haired man looking at a clock which

572
00:25:01,260 --> 00:24:58,889
closely resembles the Trump Tower clock

573
00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:01,270
right and the

574
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:04,630
man actually is arranged within this

575
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:08,530
this eight-pointed symbol kind of and it

576
00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:11,110
looks a lot like the Chaos magic symbol

577
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:14,190
this eight directional little asterisks

578
00:25:20,010 --> 00:25:18,370
yeah and that's a crazy one in he how if

579
00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:20,020
you wanted to even throw another log in

580
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:21,910
the fire you could get into the lyrics

581
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:24,610
of this song which are pretty eerily

582
00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:28,480
relatable to the saga aren't they yeah

583
00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:32,910
they're all about bending reality and

584
00:25:41,910 --> 00:25:37,990
rising up and being a think it says kind

585
00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:41,920
of a failure revolutionary and that kind

586
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,560
of once again sums up for Chan you know

587
00:25:48,420 --> 00:25:46,720
they posts may do a lot of talking but

588
00:25:51,870 --> 00:25:48,430
nobody's doing a lot of action in our

589
00:25:54,810 --> 00:25:51,880
society right and because this is a

590
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:54,820
French band from the 80s the lyrics have

591
00:25:59,220 --> 00:25:57,130
to be translated and I wrote down verse

592
00:26:01,070 --> 00:25:59,230
one and that would be why it doesn't

593
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:01,080
rhyme but when you translate it says

594
00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:04,690
cosmic absolute regular reality breath

595
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,260
of an image concept synteny of

596
00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:10,960
civilizations confused descendents of

597
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:13,990
rebel cells I fly towards the universe

598
00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:16,450
I'll pass through it if you are a star

599
00:26:21,270 --> 00:26:17,560
show yourself

600
00:26:23,370 --> 00:26:21,280
I will stop and that reads like an

601
00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:23,380
incantation of some kind when you look

602
00:26:27,270 --> 00:26:25,270
at the probability of what the song

603
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:27,280
would be about most likely to be about

604
00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:29,650
some stupid love relationship or breakup

605
00:26:35,070 --> 00:26:32,560
like 90% of songs are yeah this one is

606
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:35,080
invoking the universe images and

607
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:38,190
concepts cosmic absolute I mean [\h__\h]

608
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:41,710
Jesus man and it's a it's a disco song I

609
00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:43,030
think you said French but I think it's

610
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:46,150
actually tiles an Italian disco song so

611
00:26:50,510 --> 00:26:47,710
for it to be talking about these things

612
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:50,520
in a club setting like why you know

613
00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:54,010
mm-hmm mm-hmm and I think my mistake the

614
00:26:59,550 --> 00:26:55,990
reason why I had that it was a French

615
00:27:02,640 --> 00:26:59,560
band is because when you talk about what

616
00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:02,650
might be next or where Keck might be

617
00:27:07,170 --> 00:27:04,990
going now that Trump is won the election

618
00:27:09,930 --> 00:27:07,180
you do have on your website hint keep an

619
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:09,940
eye on France in 2017 can you talk about

620
00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:14,210
the suspicion there right so

621
00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:18,140
4chan is kind of seized on to Keck has

622
00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:21,230
this idea of liberating the world from

623
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:25,240
this Illuminati dark magic globalist

624
00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:30,890
control and we see now more stages for

625
00:27:35,410 --> 00:27:32,870
that battle to happen again in other

626
00:27:38,620 --> 00:27:35,420
european countries that are being you

627
00:27:43,450 --> 00:27:38,630
know swallowed up into this Marxists you

628
00:27:48,460 --> 00:27:43,460
know anti-free speech really really

629
00:27:51,130 --> 00:27:48,470
gross peasant class fostering politics

630
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:51,140
that seems to be spreading the world a

631
00:27:57,340 --> 00:27:54,290
global if nanny state exactly exactly

632
00:27:59,320 --> 00:27:57,350
and we see a lot of Trump equivalent

633
00:28:04,060 --> 00:27:59,330
candidates coming up in these countries

634
00:28:06,490 --> 00:28:04,070
so now we're looking towards hectic you

635
00:28:07,870 --> 00:28:06,500
know keep doing the work and brexit was

636
00:28:10,270 --> 00:28:07,880
the first example of this even before

637
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:10,280
the election so we're wanting to see

638
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:14,000
this chain continue elsewhere right that

639
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:14,690
makes sense

640
00:28:18,610 --> 00:28:16,850
and I guess I would take a second to say

641
00:28:21,310 --> 00:28:18,620
that for me I don't want there to be a

642
00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:21,320
perception that I'm a Trump guy I would

643
00:28:25,630 --> 00:28:24,020
consider myself a neutral observer who

644
00:28:27,940 --> 00:28:25,640
is definitely glad the Clinton Network

645
00:28:30,340 --> 00:28:27,950
went down but I'm just not as optimistic

646
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:30,350
as 4chan might be about what's replacing

647
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:33,170
it you know just because we have a new

648
00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:34,910
group of old white guys lining their

649
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:37,190
pockets that's not exactly the radical

650
00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:39,410
change that would get me excited but if

651
00:28:42,730 --> 00:28:41,150
you want a perfect election you're going

652
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:42,740
to be waiting a long [\h__\h] time so

653
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:45,290
right that said we should also talk

654
00:28:48,790 --> 00:28:46,970
about the clinton claim a little bit

655
00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:48,800
more the white nationalist alt-right

656
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:51,230
nazi association of course the

657
00:28:55,270 --> 00:28:53,090
mainstream is trying to paint anything

658
00:28:58,060 --> 00:28:55,280
associated with the Trump campaign with

659
00:29:00,820 --> 00:28:58,070
this brush and it applies to the Pepe

660
00:29:03,370 --> 00:29:00,830
meme as well a bit but symbols can be

661
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:03,380
used for anything and if Keck is an

662
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:04,970
Egyptian deity calling the whole thing

663
00:29:09,550 --> 00:29:07,520
white nationalist is a little bit

664
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:09,560
backwards yeah but what would you say

665
00:29:13,030 --> 00:29:10,480
about those claims

666
00:29:16,030 --> 00:29:13,040
well it's nonsense it's grasping at

667
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:16,040
straws like you said this racist label

668
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,530
it's like a hex they cast on anybody who

669
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:20,720
opposes them they can strike them down

670
00:29:27,460 --> 00:29:24,320
with this label of you know oh you're an

671
00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:27,470
evil person you're racists I mean the

672
00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:28,020
whole idea

673
00:29:32,060 --> 00:29:29,460
of memes is that they can be utilized

674
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:32,070
for anything they're so universally

675
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:34,710
applicable so to say that Pepe is a

676
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:36,930
white nationalist symbol sure I'm sure

677
00:29:41,390 --> 00:29:39,330
white nationalists have used him but I

678
00:29:43,970 --> 00:29:41,400
mean if Mickey Mouse was put on a KKK

679
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:43,980
flyer you wouldn't now say that Mickey

680
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:45,570
Mouse is a white nationalist symbol

681
00:29:51,410 --> 00:29:48,240
right yeah that's a great analogy

682
00:29:54,140 --> 00:29:51,420
yeah the symbols themselves are neutral

683
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:54,150
and really can be used for whatever and

684
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:55,200
you could if you're in the mainstream

685
00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:56,730
media and you want to cherry pick some

686
00:30:01,100 --> 00:29:58,260
things and make something seem

687
00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:01,110
exceptionally negative you can craft

688
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:03,480
that tail with the bullet points they

689
00:30:07,340 --> 00:30:05,010
have but there's just so much more to

690
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:07,350
the story as we're talking about and if

691
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,090
people are still doubting the influence

692
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:11,520
of a cartoon frog not only did Hillary

693
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:14,820
personally comment on it but Trump also

694
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:17,730
retweeted it at one point didn't he yeah

695
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:20,880
yeah well that was her her straw issues

696
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:22,770
grasping ah so look Trump has used this

697
00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:24,570
white nationalism I think it was Trump's

698
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:27,630
son actually ah but it's just a total

699
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:30,090
coincidence or synchronicity you more

700
00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:32,610
look at it like that right I mean it

701
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,190
touched both major party candidates with

702
00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:36,720
all the things on their plate

703
00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:38,550
they both dedicated at least a small

704
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:40,860
sliver of time to some cartoon frog from

705
00:30:45,230 --> 00:30:43,770
4chan right can't believe in men they

706
00:30:49,670 --> 00:30:45,240
really brought him out into the world

707
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:49,680
right it's just it's absurd it is and so

708
00:30:53,630 --> 00:30:52,200
what does the creator of Pepe have to

709
00:30:56,140 --> 00:30:53,640
say about all this is he has he been

710
00:31:00,020 --> 00:30:56,150
addressed since this has all happened

711
00:31:00,470 --> 00:31:00,030
yeah the main stream dug him out of the

712
00:31:03,020 --> 00:31:00,480
gutter

713
00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:03,030
so the comments on it but it's just like

714
00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:05,040
I said before I think he was in the bag

715
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:06,660
for Hillary maybe they slipped him some

716
00:31:08,780 --> 00:31:06,930
money

717
00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:08,790
I don't know mm-hmm but it's not

718
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:11,150
relevant you know it he's just a vessel

719
00:31:15,620 --> 00:31:14,070
yeah exactly I mean give him his props

720
00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:15,630
for drawing a cool-looking character

721
00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:16,860
that a lot of people can associate with

722
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:21,630
but it was co-opted by another group so

723
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:24,510
it's not about him anymore mm-hmm or

724
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:26,850
what he thinks and and this is kind of

725
00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:28,710
the nature of art right you know the

726
00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:30,780
idea of the Meuse you channel things

727
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:33,950
into the world it's not you making them

728
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:38,910
exactly another good point and so when

729
00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:41,370
it comes to the synchronicities that

730
00:31:43,770 --> 00:31:41,620
have

731
00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:43,780
bendin you making the website that you

732
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:46,870
made people of course started seeing

733
00:31:51,870 --> 00:31:48,880
other amazing syncs and sending things

734
00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:51,880
to you and tell us about what seems to

735
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:54,790
be the oldest connection between Pepe

736
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:57,250
and Trump with this old Donald Trump's

737
00:32:02,820 --> 00:31:59,200
real estate tycoon video game I thought

738
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:02,830
this is a mind-blowing man yeah I mean

739
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:04,030
there are a ton of these right we've

740
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:06,250
only just touch the surface of all these

741
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:08,770
synchronicities but the Donald Trump

742
00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:11,950
video game a real estate tycoon right

743
00:32:17,970 --> 00:32:14,260
use this little simulator game you put

744
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:17,980
out and it within the game you decide

745
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:20,170
what your logo is going to be for your

746
00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:22,030
company and they have all these just

747
00:32:30,299 --> 00:32:24,790
random generic logos and one of them is

748
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:30,309
Pepe the word Pepe right a corporate

749
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:32,170
name you can choose called Pepe and the

750
00:32:37,740 --> 00:32:35,470
logo behind it seems to be a winding

751
00:32:41,010 --> 00:32:37,750
road symbol which you could definitely

752
00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:41,020
yeah connect to this saga if you wanted

753
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:42,550
to it is quite a winding road especially

754
00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:44,470
if you were going to plant something in

755
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:47,020
the mid 90s about something that was

756
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:50,230
going to happen in 2016 well that leads

757
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:51,760
us right into another synchronicity

758
00:32:58,740 --> 00:32:55,090
where one of the Mandarin translations

759
00:33:00,180 --> 00:32:58,750
of cactus drama or theater and man if

760
00:33:03,650 --> 00:33:00,190
you were following a selection you just

761
00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:03,660
you could not write a more up and down

762
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:07,300
rollercoaster movie than this the cycle

763
00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:09,730
that we all experienced happened before

764
00:33:14,669 --> 00:33:12,070
us yeah this election is just absurd

765
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:14,679
with all its twists and turns absolutely

766
00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:17,200
so that equivalent and in German the

767
00:33:24,380 --> 00:33:20,800
word heck I think spelt with CK is bold

768
00:33:26,850 --> 00:33:24,390
and daring and it always goes into this

769
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:26,860
character that we've all associated with

770
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:31,210
Pepe on 4chan of this 11e and you know

771
00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:33,910
trolling and and laughing in the face of

772
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:37,360
the establishment right and you know

773
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:38,890
obviously there's been a lot of

774
00:33:44,780 --> 00:33:42,880
interaction in 4chan with this entity is

775
00:33:47,910 --> 00:33:44,790
there anything more you could say to

776
00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:47,920
flesh out its personality or these

777
00:33:52,860 --> 00:33:50,470
interactions because I think that to me

778
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:52,870
is the most fascinating thing is getting

779
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:54,650
insight into

780
00:33:58,270 --> 00:33:56,720
this kind of rare situation of

781
00:34:00,610 --> 00:33:58,280
communication with an entity it always

782
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:00,620
seems kind of vague it always seems kind

783
00:34:05,380 --> 00:34:03,110
of loose but in a situation like this I

784
00:34:07,660 --> 00:34:05,390
assume you might be able to get a little

785
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:07,670
bit more detail about this maybe

786
00:34:12,010 --> 00:34:09,770
personality type or just how it

787
00:34:14,350 --> 00:34:12,020
interacts with people yeah definitely

788
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:14,360
well like we talked about fortune takes

789
00:34:18,850 --> 00:34:16,010
things and changes them slightly right

790
00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:18,860
so but we didn't mention before is the

791
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:22,760
fact that at some point within this time

792
00:34:28,540 --> 00:34:25,370
line before Trump really but in between

793
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:28,550
adopting sad Pepe we transform him into

794
00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:33,610
smug Pepe where it's a frog who has very

795
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,950
smug expression on this very sly grin

796
00:34:41,350 --> 00:34:39,440
and he's holding up his his finger and

797
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:41,360
thumb to his chin and looking at you

798
00:34:46,930 --> 00:34:44,480
knowingly and it was very perplexing to

799
00:34:49,149 --> 00:34:46,940
us that Pepe under witness

800
00:34:51,570 --> 00:34:49,159
transformation where he now has this

801
00:34:54,130 --> 00:34:51,580
like this secret that he's harboring and

802
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:54,140
there was really no justification for

803
00:34:58,330 --> 00:34:56,210
the mean like we talked about how memes

804
00:35:00,670 --> 00:34:58,340
are very competitive and they have to

805
00:35:02,830 --> 00:35:00,680
resonate in the right way there was

806
00:35:05,710 --> 00:35:02,840
really no none of that for this meme it

807
00:35:07,660 --> 00:35:05,720
just came out of the ether and people I

808
00:35:09,310 --> 00:35:07,670
mean the common response to posting that

809
00:35:13,150 --> 00:35:09,320
picture people would say why so smug

810
00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:13,160
Pepe but what what do you know as it's

811
00:35:20,290 --> 00:35:17,630
almost like a precursor to Trump winning

812
00:35:21,790 --> 00:35:20,300
and then you see the media having to eat

813
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:21,800
their words and always blowing up in

814
00:35:27,730 --> 00:35:23,990
their faces people are feeling very smug

815
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:27,740
now so it's a other aspects of the

816
00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:30,290
puzzle it's so strange that it worked

817
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:33,560
out like that right and so I'm curious

818
00:35:39,130 --> 00:35:35,930
does Keck communicate with the members

819
00:35:43,290 --> 00:35:39,140
of 4chan in any other way beyond through

820
00:35:46,750 --> 00:35:43,300
the synchronicity of double-digit posts

821
00:35:49,090 --> 00:35:46,760
no but it's significant enough that it

822
00:35:51,550 --> 00:35:49,100
seems like almost what more because you

823
00:35:53,890 --> 00:35:51,560
asked for it you'll just see every day

824
00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:53,900
on 4chan someone will post a message

825
00:35:59,530 --> 00:35:56,750
that's you know in some way significant

826
00:36:01,540 --> 00:35:59,540
and their post number will be 7-7 you

827
00:36:04,570 --> 00:36:01,550
know they'll post tech works in

828
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:04,580
mysterious ways and 1% chance goes to

829
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:07,250
them they get the dopes and a thread

830
00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:10,310
right it's almost like a digital Ouija

831
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:11,960
board of some kind and you keep getting

832
00:36:15,220 --> 00:36:14,570
the response yeah yeah I mean it's

833
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:15,230
amazing

834
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:18,290
so you were studying magic before this

835
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:19,910
happened I understand and knowing what

836
00:36:23,260 --> 00:36:21,710
you know about Chaos magic which you

837
00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:23,270
consider the saga to be in line with

838
00:36:30,580 --> 00:36:26,680
what you might expect it is the most

839
00:36:32,890 --> 00:36:30,590
perfect example of Chaos magic working

840
00:36:36,220 --> 00:36:32,900
that you could ever imagine and I'll

841
00:36:38,980 --> 00:36:36,230
explain to you why sure 4chan maybe

842
00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:38,990
people don't see the appeal of posting

843
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:40,270
on an image board you know some people

844
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:44,090
you know are they their readers or they

845
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:46,490
read comic books and some people this is

846
00:36:50,860 --> 00:36:49,550
just their hobby because once you start

847
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:50,870
getting into it you realize it's so

848
00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:53,810
entertaining and there's so much on the

849
00:36:59,560 --> 00:36:56,720
table it's a buffet of emotional states

850
00:37:01,690 --> 00:36:59,570
it really is you'll go into one thread

851
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:01,700
and you'll get into an argument of

852
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:05,890
somebody you'll get very angry and and

853
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:08,090
then you'll go into another thread and

854
00:37:11,710 --> 00:37:09,440
you'll just be laughing and all this

855
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:11,720
banter going back and forth and then

856
00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:12,850
you'll go into another thread and

857
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:15,230
everybody is just you know lamenting

858
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:17,450
their airing out their woes and you get

859
00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:21,890
very sad so you get to ride the whole

860
00:37:26,860 --> 00:37:24,470
spectrum of the emotional rollercoaster

861
00:37:29,710 --> 00:37:26,870
you know within the span of an hour just

862
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:29,720
browsing these image ports and the

863
00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:32,930
principal and chaos magic is that these

864
00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:34,760
high-energy another synchronously

865
00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:37,190
high-energy Trump's slogan is high

866
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:39,590
energy emotional states they are what

867
00:37:46,060 --> 00:37:43,910
charge sigils and so while you're

868
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:46,070
browsing through these emotional states

869
00:37:49,330 --> 00:37:48,050
unfortunately you're also seeing peppe's

870
00:37:52,780 --> 00:37:49,340
you know because it's a very popular

871
00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:52,790
meme so the idea is maybe this is how

872
00:37:58,180 --> 00:37:55,550
people were charging the sigil with all

873
00:38:01,480 --> 00:37:58,190
this power just by the mechanics of the

874
00:38:03,850 --> 00:38:01,490
image board the other way to charge

875
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:03,860
residual it's very significant is trance

876
00:38:09,490 --> 00:38:06,710
state like when you're watching TV and

877
00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:09,500
it's the time when your eyes glaze over

878
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:12,260
all right that's seen as this idea of

879
00:38:16,750 --> 00:38:14,690
the subconscious membrane kind of

880
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:16,760
loosening up and now you can now you can

881
00:38:20,859 --> 00:38:19,010
send your energy out into the world or

882
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:20,869
be manipulated maybe we'll talk

883
00:38:27,249 --> 00:38:23,930
that later but yeah this is the state of

884
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:27,259
no-mind this meditative state that's

885
00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:29,690
another way to charge residual another

886
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,150
way sexual simulation and there's a lot

887
00:38:36,910 --> 00:38:34,400
of porn posted on these image boards so

888
00:38:38,499 --> 00:38:36,920
every way you could charge a sigil it's

889
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:38,509
all here in this little grab-bag

890
00:38:44,170 --> 00:38:42,079
on 4chan so it's it's a laboratory for

891
00:38:47,739 --> 00:38:44,180
making chaos magic happens it's insane

892
00:38:50,859 --> 00:38:47,749
really yeah that makes sense and it does

893
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:50,869
kind of call into question how

894
00:38:57,130 --> 00:38:53,920
consciousness interacts with reality and

895
00:39:00,370 --> 00:38:57,140
it's kind of a special case or a special

896
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:00,380
case study because of Fortune's nature

897
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,440
to kind of get away from the individual

898
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:04,880
and kind of work in a more collective

899
00:39:13,299 --> 00:39:09,730
way it creates a real great laboratory

900
00:39:16,989 --> 00:39:13,309
typesetting to test these things out man

901
00:39:19,299 --> 00:39:16,999
yeah there's another story of meme magic

902
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:19,309
before this ever happened there was kind

903
00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:21,890
of this trial run where people kind of

904
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:24,470
tuned into this power as we know for

905
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:27,049
trans really into trolls and trolling

906
00:39:31,690 --> 00:39:30,049
and pranking the world and a couple

907
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:31,700
years ago they thought it would be funny

908
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:36,049
to spread Ebola back into the world so

909
00:39:41,319 --> 00:39:37,910
this was kind of the proto Pepe they

910
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:41,329
made the sigil his image called Ebola

911
00:39:49,089 --> 00:39:45,890
Shan just some anime girl it's for trans

912
00:39:52,779 --> 00:39:49,099
all about that stuff and they embedded

913
00:39:54,789 --> 00:39:52,789
their desire jokingly at first to hasten

914
00:39:56,650 --> 00:39:54,799
the spread of Ebola and we saw that in

915
00:39:59,739 --> 00:39:56,660
the news cycle a couple years ago it

916
00:40:01,390 --> 00:39:59,749
worked so that was kind of the first

917
00:40:03,069 --> 00:40:01,400
trial run of mean magic and they kind of

918
00:40:04,359 --> 00:40:03,079
they kind of ease off the pedal on that

919
00:40:06,759 --> 00:40:04,369
once they realized wow we're really

920
00:40:09,789 --> 00:40:06,769
maybe affecting the world here's with

921
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:09,799
our intent right and I did hear about

922
00:40:17,410 --> 00:40:13,359
that and I think even outside of that

923
00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:17,420
4chan does have some other interactions

924
00:40:24,330 --> 00:40:21,400
with magic over its existence right

925
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:24,340
how so what do you mean well I read

926
00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:27,040
about another story that seemed to get a

927
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:28,780
little bit of attention could have been

928
00:40:34,290 --> 00:40:31,570
again a troll but someone seemingly made

929
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:34,300
an egregore of My Little Pony that

930
00:40:39,450 --> 00:40:36,970
didn't go quite so well you'd have to

931
00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:39,460
tell me that one that's s sounds great

932
00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:41,980
oh well from what I read they decided to

933
00:40:47,550 --> 00:40:43,750
make this egregore out of My Little Pony

934
00:40:49,830 --> 00:40:47,560
very appropriate for 4chan and it became

935
00:40:52,020 --> 00:40:49,840
some type of negative entity and it

936
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:52,030
started speaking to them in their head

937
00:40:56,610 --> 00:40:53,890
so loudly they couldn't hear other

938
00:40:59,370 --> 00:40:56,620
thoughts or form clarity it resulted in

939
00:41:03,750 --> 00:40:59,380
headaches and being kept up at night and

940
00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:03,760
that eventually just stopped Wow Wow

941
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:05,470
weird stuff and it could just be people

942
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:07,630
getting attention but these things stack

943
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:08,890
up and you got a look at all of them

944
00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:11,290
right well that sounds like the classic

945
00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:13,720
word of caution on the idea of a Tulpa

946
00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:17,230
of fragmenting your consciousness into

947
00:41:21,740 --> 00:41:19,660
another personality like that it is

948
00:41:24,210 --> 00:41:21,750
funny how we see these things

949
00:41:25,830 --> 00:41:24,220
manifesting in the digital world to

950
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,840
people who aren't even aware of what

951
00:41:29,610 --> 00:41:27,760
they're doing and you go back and you

952
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:29,620
see oh well that was cast magic that was

953
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:33,520
a a Tulpa now you also mentioned to me

954
00:41:38,190 --> 00:41:35,920
that in the past couple of weeks you've

955
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:38,200
been searching for the thread that ties

956
00:41:42,510 --> 00:41:40,270
all this me magic business into

957
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:42,520
something more profound or related to

958
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:46,030
old-world occultism where are you on

959
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:47,290
that search is there anything more to be

960
00:41:52,340 --> 00:41:47,890
said about that

961
00:41:55,830 --> 00:41:52,350
yeah well that thread is the Egyptian

962
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:55,840
philosophy and another synchronicity

963
00:42:03,210 --> 00:41:58,480
with the whole tech and going back to

964
00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:03,220
the the old Egyptian occult world the

965
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:06,760
Cabal Eon is a very kind of a

966
00:42:12,330 --> 00:42:09,670
cornerstone text in this esoteric

967
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:12,340
philosophy sphere I think you know

968
00:42:17,010 --> 00:42:14,800
Freemasons have adopted it and follow

969
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:17,020
different kinds and you can kind of see

970
00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:19,810
how it's the foundation even of very

971
00:42:24,570 --> 00:42:21,340
mainstream religions like Christianity

972
00:42:27,810 --> 00:42:24,580
and Buddhism it really breaks down the

973
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,820
basics of belief and I thought it was so

974
00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:29,680
interesting reading this talking where

975
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:31,780
the principles is you know the principle

976
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:34,690
of the pendulum now there's a forward

977
00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:35,170
and back

978
00:42:39,569 --> 00:42:36,700
or swing to everything and you see that

979
00:42:42,359 --> 00:42:39,579
in tech you see okay we were headed

980
00:42:44,849 --> 00:42:42,369
towards this direction and now all of a

981
00:42:48,510 --> 00:42:44,859
sudden Keck appears and now society is

982
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:48,520
going back on this this PC social

983
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:52,390
justice warrior momentum and then we're

984
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:54,490
swinging back now maybe towards more of

985
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:57,010
a conservative culture yeah so just all

986
00:43:02,549 --> 00:42:59,920
these principles within ancient Egyptian

987
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:02,559
texts I had no idea that really this was

988
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:04,720
the crucible ancient Egypt was really a

989
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:08,970
crucible of all this belief and faith

990
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:11,049
yeah I mean that's a great point it

991
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:14,650
definitely seems to have been and you

992
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:17,049
know if this is a real aspect of reality

993
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:20,170
I guess based on kind of what we're

994
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:21,520
talking about ancient Egypt do you think

995
00:43:25,740 --> 00:43:24,400
that there was a time in history where

996
00:43:27,539 --> 00:43:25,750
it might have been more commonly

997
00:43:30,450 --> 00:43:27,549
accepted among people is this something

998
00:43:35,789 --> 00:43:30,460
that has been purposefully hidden from

999
00:43:37,230 --> 00:43:35,799
people yeah I think well here's I talk

1000
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:37,240
about this in my book right you're

1001
00:43:41,250 --> 00:43:38,160
imagining things

1002
00:43:44,059 --> 00:43:41,260
the occults has always been there for

1003
00:43:47,309 --> 00:43:44,069
those who seek it but the reality is

1004
00:43:50,549 --> 00:43:47,319
people don't want that power they say

1005
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:50,559
they do but when you have the tools to

1006
00:43:54,450 --> 00:43:52,720
shape your own destiny now you are

1007
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:54,460
responsible for your own destiny and

1008
00:43:59,039 --> 00:43:56,650
most people don't really want that

1009
00:44:00,210 --> 00:43:59,049
responsibility it's the saying from the

1010
00:44:01,109 --> 00:44:00,220
Bible and this actually came from

1011
00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:01,119
ancient Egypt

1012
00:44:06,839 --> 00:44:04,390
don't throw pearls before swine and a

1013
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:06,849
significant detail there is throwing the

1014
00:44:08,849 --> 00:44:07,150
pearl

1015
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:08,859
you know the swine aren't massing you

1016
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:11,920
aren't mobbing you or these little

1017
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:12,970
nuggets of knowledge they're not

1018
00:44:17,370 --> 00:44:15,760
interested so don't bother with that you

1019
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:17,380
know let the people who are interested

1020
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:20,650
find here so I don't know if it's been

1021
00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:23,290
so deliberately hidden but it seems to

1022
00:44:29,549 --> 00:44:26,230
be like it's definitely wielded only by

1023
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:29,559
very evil corrupt people these days I

1024
00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:32,680
think back then the world might have

1025
00:44:39,150 --> 00:44:35,349
been ruled by a more benevolent class of

1026
00:44:40,770 --> 00:44:39,160
mystics than we see today right that's a

1027
00:44:42,329 --> 00:44:40,780
theme that I've had a lot of guests

1028
00:44:45,859 --> 00:44:42,339
bring up people who have really studied

1029
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:45,869
this stuff deep it definitely is a

1030
00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:48,490
popular thought to think that when

1031
00:44:51,810 --> 00:44:49,270
you're talking about

1032
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:51,820
and Pharaohs these people were there

1033
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:54,130
respected leaders because they were so

1034
00:44:59,550 --> 00:44:56,650
knowledgeable and wise in these occult

1035
00:45:02,070 --> 00:44:59,560
realms as opposed to today where it just

1036
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:02,080
seems like any old body who's got in

1037
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:05,290
with the network of good old boys can

1038
00:45:09,980 --> 00:45:07,330
kind of get to a privileged position and

1039
00:45:12,990 --> 00:45:09,990
it isn't based on their merit anymore

1040
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:13,000
right and that's the big complaint right

1041
00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:15,370
when you take away the meritocracy of

1042
00:45:19,140 --> 00:45:16,990
the world that's where there's problems

1043
00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:19,150
and you know that's where people make

1044
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:21,750
conspiracies about the Jews or the

1045
00:45:26,340 --> 00:45:23,890
reptiles or whatever you want to call

1046
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:26,350
them really the root evil there is the

1047
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:28,690
fact that will no matter what you do you

1048
00:45:32,850 --> 00:45:31,090
don't have a contact in this dark

1049
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:32,860
society so you're not going to get the

1050
00:45:38,010 --> 00:45:36,490
fruits of your labor mm-hmm yeah and so

1051
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:38,020
can there is there anything else that

1052
00:45:41,970 --> 00:45:40,330
can be said about the elites magical

1053
00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:41,980
knowledge or the idea of them using

1054
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:43,750
these tools regularly we talked about

1055
00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:45,700
Moloch a little bit but have you seen

1056
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:48,790
other things that make you curious yeah

1057
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:50,950
well I have a very good example of this

1058
00:45:57,420 --> 00:45:54,850
I I think a corporate logo is a sigil in

1059
00:45:59,610 --> 00:45:57,430
a sense mm-hmm we kind of touched on

1060
00:46:02,640 --> 00:45:59,620
this earlier before see there's the idea

1061
00:46:03,870 --> 00:46:02,650
in esoteric philosophy that there is no

1062
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:03,880
such thing as a one-way street

1063
00:46:09,390 --> 00:46:06,160
everything is back and forth everything

1064
00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:09,400
is a double-edged sword so when you see

1065
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:11,560
a sigil and you're charging your sigil

1066
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,800
right eventually your sigil is now going

1067
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:16,720
to be its own entity and it's going to

1068
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:19,930
be charging other people you know it's

1069
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:21,430
going to be directing energy towards

1070
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:24,880
other people so that's where I see a

1071
00:46:29,790 --> 00:46:26,770
logo as I see a logo almost as like an

1072
00:46:31,650 --> 00:46:29,800
anti-social where it's out there in the

1073
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:31,660
world and it's there to manipulate

1074
00:46:36,690 --> 00:46:34,510
people it's there to embed into someone

1075
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:36,700
else's subconscious whereas a normal

1076
00:46:42,090 --> 00:46:39,130
schedule of you taking your subconscious

1077
00:46:44,820 --> 00:46:42,100
putting out into the world this is the

1078
00:46:46,620 --> 00:46:44,830
opposite you see mm-hmm I think there's

1079
00:46:48,690 --> 00:46:46,630
definitely something to that because the

1080
00:46:51,180 --> 00:46:48,700
biggest corporations on the planet have

1081
00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:51,190
logos that allude to ancient symbols in

1082
00:46:57,870 --> 00:46:54,190
most cases they have mascots that do the

1083
00:47:01,140 --> 00:46:57,880
same they invoke Greek Roman Egyptian

1084
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:01,150
archetypes in a weird way and it happens

1085
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:01,770
more

1086
00:47:09,140 --> 00:47:06,030
Samuel there there's got to be something

1087
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:09,150
going on I mean these also aren't just

1088
00:47:13,550 --> 00:47:12,090
mid-level players of modest wealth I

1089
00:47:16,370 --> 00:47:13,560
mean these are the [\h__\h]

1090
00:47:18,140 --> 00:47:16,380
trillionaires on the planet and so

1091
00:47:21,230 --> 00:47:18,150
something's going on we also see it a

1092
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:21,240
lot in NASA naming missions Apollo and

1093
00:47:26,060 --> 00:47:22,680
they mean

1094
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:26,070
meteors things like osiris-rex i mean

1095
00:47:30,770 --> 00:47:28,290
strange why would they be doing that

1096
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:30,780
very strange and just says the practice

1097
00:47:35,090 --> 00:47:32,310
itself when you're talking about money

1098
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:35,100
being spent why is it so important for

1099
00:47:40,070 --> 00:47:36,570
them to shell out millions of dollars

1100
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:40,080
just to flash their brand logo you know

1101
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:42,510
like coca-cola spends a million dollars

1102
00:47:47,570 --> 00:47:44,250
to fly around their symbol on a blimp

1103
00:47:49,580 --> 00:47:47,580
why it doesn't it's not can I mean I

1104
00:47:50,810 --> 00:47:49,590
understand advertising and convincing

1105
00:47:53,210 --> 00:47:50,820
someone to do something but that's

1106
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:53,220
that's not what a logo is right it

1107
00:47:55,850 --> 00:47:54,570
doesn't come with a message you know

1108
00:47:58,550 --> 00:47:55,860
telling you to buy something it's just a

1109
00:48:02,540 --> 00:47:58,560
logo and these Super Bowl advertisements

1110
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:02,550
it'll be just a story some emotionally

1111
00:48:06,620 --> 00:48:04,770
stirring image and it will flash a logo

1112
00:48:09,740 --> 00:48:06,630
and it's over and you don't even know

1113
00:48:10,370 --> 00:48:09,750
what you've been sold right and money

1114
00:48:12,140 --> 00:48:10,380
itself

1115
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:12,150
look at look at the dollar bill it's a

1116
00:48:18,410 --> 00:48:14,910
it's a goddamned soup of etheric symbols

1117
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:18,420
hidden and unhidden it's deep yeah and

1118
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:20,160
it's such a great example of a charged

1119
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:23,250
digital because it's it's just paper but

1120
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:25,440
we've charged it with this this power

1121
00:48:29,540 --> 00:48:27,090
and now it's something you would kill

1122
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:29,550
your mother over if you're certain of a

1123
00:48:33,860 --> 00:48:32,130
person and then yeah I always say if

1124
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:33,870
aliens came down and we're like how do

1125
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:35,490
you do things on this planet we say well

1126
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:37,530
nothing gets done unless you've

1127
00:48:41,150 --> 00:48:39,240
exchanged some green paper yeah I know

1128
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:41,160
that guys over there starving and dying

1129
00:48:44,690 --> 00:48:43,290
but we can't do anything we can't get

1130
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:44,700
him the food he doesn't have the green

1131
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:47,370
paper and it would just seem so insane

1132
00:48:51,830 --> 00:48:49,650
and I would think the conclusion they

1133
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:51,840
would come to is man all these people

1134
00:48:58,010 --> 00:48:55,770
are under some kind of spell well my

1135
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:58,020
take on that is they would say oh look

1136
00:49:01,910 --> 00:49:00,240
at these Chaos magic primates they're

1137
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:01,920
just starting to grasp the power of

1138
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:04,290
these sigils look how primitive their

1139
00:49:09,290 --> 00:49:06,450
technology is with their if their

1140
00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:09,300
central craft because I do look at this

1141
00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:12,990
as a type of technology yeah now you

1142
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:15,300
apply and it's a neutral thing like

1143
00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:17,250
talked about it's how you use it but

1144
00:49:23,180 --> 00:49:20,310
it's a tool right to get things done in

1145
00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:23,190
the universe channel desire into outcome

1146
00:49:28,310 --> 00:49:26,280
and the connection between magic and

1147
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,320
technology can't be overstated

1148
00:49:33,050 --> 00:49:30,480
especially if you look at the deep state

1149
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:33,060
of the 60s and 70s even up till today

1150
00:49:38,660 --> 00:49:36,960
they're constantly being accused of

1151
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:38,670
being occultus if you talk about Jack

1152
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,370
Parsons and the rocketry program strange

1153
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:43,440
stuff there always seems to be some type

1154
00:49:48,410 --> 00:49:45,810
of a cult connection between some of the

1155
00:49:51,980 --> 00:49:48,420
most brilliant minds of science and

1156
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:51,990
technology and this stuff right well I

1157
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:53,610
learned this from your podcast actually

1158
00:49:56,810 --> 00:49:55,010
the fact that the pentagram

1159
00:50:00,110 --> 00:49:56,820
revolutionized the rocket engine that

1160
00:50:02,540 --> 00:50:00,120
they found out that's a more useful way

1161
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:02,550
to distribute the lift force is in a

1162
00:50:07,790 --> 00:50:05,970
shape of a pentagram boom yeah it's

1163
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:07,800
crazy and you just find these things so

1164
00:50:12,020 --> 00:50:10,170
often you have to start wondering know

1165
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:12,030
where just where do the coincidences end

1166
00:50:19,730 --> 00:50:14,850
and something significant begin amen so

1167
00:50:21,740 --> 00:50:19,740
if we're going to revisit the Pepe Keck

1168
00:50:24,290 --> 00:50:21,750
thing that we're talking about there are

1169
00:50:26,570 --> 00:50:24,300
other synchronicities that I think are

1170
00:50:27,110 --> 00:50:26,580
really interesting one that I really

1171
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:27,120
loved

1172
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:29,970
I guess comes from a top mammalogists

1173
00:50:35,090 --> 00:50:32,640
dubbed Gobekli Pepe which is the most

1174
00:50:36,350 --> 00:50:35,100
perfect name I guess he's bad on Twitter

1175
00:50:39,230 --> 00:50:36,360
but he found something about a fan-made

1176
00:50:40,970 --> 00:50:39,240
version of Pokemon called Pokemon chaos

1177
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:40,980
of all things can you tell us about this

1178
00:50:46,130 --> 00:50:44,250
one yeah well I didn't know that you

1179
00:50:47,630 --> 00:50:46,140
know some people are so into Pokemon

1180
00:50:48,260 --> 00:50:47,640
that they make their own games for it

1181
00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:48,270
man

1182
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:51,000
so that was that was interesting to

1183
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:53,400
learn and one of these games is called

1184
00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:56,640
Pokemon chaos and this guy he made his

1185
00:51:02,440 --> 00:50:58,440
whole roster of pokemons

1186
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:02,450
and he named one of them shadow lay and

1187
00:51:07,940 --> 00:51:06,210
the the design of his Pokemon looks a

1188
00:51:10,910 --> 00:51:07,950
lot like Pepe it's a sad looking

1189
00:51:13,610 --> 00:51:10,920
amphibian so once again this very

1190
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:13,620
strange stack of coincidences that seem

1191
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:16,800
to point towards this God form right I

1192
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:19,110
love that one man I mean it's kind of

1193
00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:20,460
one of those things you have to see and

1194
00:51:24,380 --> 00:51:21,630
if you're a little bit familiar with

1195
00:51:27,260 --> 00:51:24,390
Pokemon I mean it might make even more

1196
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:27,270
sense to you but calling the thin shadow

1197
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,890
lay of all the

1198
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:30,240
possible names if people don't remember

1199
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:32,130
that is the name of the song that we

1200
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:35,310
talked about from the 80s CD and another

1201
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:37,710
point about shadow lay because we did

1202
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:39,930
talk about it being a translation the

1203
00:51:43,820 --> 00:51:41,970
song lyrics needing to be translated

1204
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:43,830
Qian delay is the one

1205
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,650
untranslatable word right I mean yeah

1206
00:51:50,990 --> 00:51:48,480
apparently there's no equivalent right

1207
00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:51,000
so it just once again like a good meme

1208
00:51:55,310 --> 00:51:52,380
it becomes something you can kind of

1209
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:55,320
project your own meaning onto and like

1210
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,690
you know the nature of qeq there's still

1211
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:00,000
this element of the obscure within all

1212
00:52:04,190 --> 00:52:01,710
this what you can make of it there's

1213
00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:04,200
still this just black hole but you just

1214
00:52:08,540 --> 00:52:05,700
have to fill with your own thing and we

1215
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:08,550
see that you know like on every scale of

1216
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:11,280
this phenomenon there's a shadow lay

1217
00:52:18,770 --> 00:52:16,530
it's a gap you know yeah so have you

1218
00:52:20,540 --> 00:52:18,780
gotten any other interesting mail that

1219
00:52:22,070 --> 00:52:20,550
adds any more syncs to the list that

1220
00:52:24,650 --> 00:52:22,080
maybe you haven't had a chance to add to

1221
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:24,660
the site yet sure this one's a new one

1222
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:28,800
someone messaged me on Twitter the

1223
00:52:36,110 --> 00:52:31,200
translation of Donald Trump's Chinese

1224
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:36,120
name so it's six characters and each one

1225
00:52:40,130 --> 00:52:37,710
obviously has its own meaning when you

1226
00:52:42,530 --> 00:52:40,140
take them out of context you know so

1227
00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:42,540
when you break it down the characters

1228
00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:46,740
for Donald Trump mean offensive except

1229
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:51,420
slash pay moral virtue or favor and then

1230
00:52:59,930 --> 00:52:56,450
special extraordinary light Universal

1231
00:53:05,300 --> 00:52:59,940
hmm so every one of those you can kind

1232
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:05,310
of relate back to trump and Keck and all

1233
00:53:09,050 --> 00:53:07,680
this once again I just solve fits so

1234
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:09,060
perfectly like why could what are those

1235
00:53:16,370 --> 00:53:12,960
be chair you know right or or uh you

1236
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:16,380
know a different animal yeah I love and

1237
00:53:21,050 --> 00:53:19,370
then it's it's just amazing stuff and so

1238
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:21,060
awesome Aaron

1239
00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:24,720
ATL I appreciate you being here please

1240
00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:26,550
remind the people where they can read

1241
00:53:29,780 --> 00:53:28,230
your work or anything else that they

1242
00:53:31,220 --> 00:53:29,790
should know about when in terms of

1243
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:31,230
following you or getting in touch with

1244
00:53:37,550 --> 00:53:33,690
you all that good stuff sure you can

1245
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:37,560
follow the Pepe story in greater detail

1246
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:42,480
at Pepe the Frog face and you can

1247
00:53:47,859 --> 00:53:45,119
follow me on Twitter for more peppe's at

1248
00:53:51,940 --> 00:53:47,869
pepe report and if you just want to

1249
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:51,950
learn more about these mimetic magic

1250
00:53:56,090 --> 00:53:54,240
principles in general you can check out

1251
00:53:59,330 --> 00:53:56,100
my book you're imagining things

1252
00:54:01,310 --> 00:53:59,340
on amazon.com it's coming out January

1253
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:01,320
1st you can get on pre-order now it also

1254
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:04,890
be on Kindle when it comes up boom right

1255
00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:06,810
on thanks my man couldn't have done it

1256
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:09,720
without you I do think this Pepe Keck

1257
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:12,240
Trump saga is an excellent case study

1258
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:14,970
and how magic could work and I haven't

1259
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:16,410
seen anybody breaking down this stuff

1260
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,970
better than you so much appreciate it

1261
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:19,440
and take care of yourself out there

1262
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:22,290
praise kick and shadow Leigh thank you

1263
00:54:27,590 --> 00:54:23,930
praise Kay

1264
00:54:29,660 --> 00:54:27,600
all right people the Pepe meme and the

1265
00:54:32,810 --> 00:54:29,670
cult of Keck hopefully you enjoyed that

1266
00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:32,820
one I think we made about as good a case

1267
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:34,980
as anybody when it comes to synthesizing

1268
00:54:39,290 --> 00:54:37,440
this saga and there is an interesting

1269
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:39,300
tendency people have that I've noticed

1270
00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:41,520
that will probably apply here too but

1271
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:43,830
when you make a broad statement like the

1272
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:46,290
media and politicians lie to us they'll

1273
00:54:49,460 --> 00:54:47,490
get a lot of agreement you could

1274
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:49,470
probably get nine out of ten people to

1275
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:51,930
agree with that statement in general but

1276
00:54:55,820 --> 00:54:53,490
then when you get into specifics it all

1277
00:54:59,090 --> 00:54:55,830
falls apart ask those same nine people

1278
00:55:01,880 --> 00:54:59,100
where we lied to about 9/11 or Sandy

1279
00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:01,890
Hook or say vaccines or whatever it is

1280
00:55:06,410 --> 00:55:04,500
and it's like okay you think the

1281
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:06,420
establishment lies to us well what about

1282
00:55:10,970 --> 00:55:08,730
because every time it matters most

1283
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:10,980
people stick to the mainstream opinions

1284
00:55:15,590 --> 00:55:12,570
and I think the same thing might happen

1285
00:55:17,540 --> 00:55:15,600
here we do these shows about magic and

1286
00:55:19,849 --> 00:55:17,550
the power of sigils and synchronicity

1287
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:19,859
and a lot of people think oh yeah that

1288
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:22,170
stuff is totally real and then we lay

1289
00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:25,050
out a detailed case like this and we'll

1290
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:26,760
probably see a lot of people who say

1291
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:29,520
they aren't buying it but I'd ask what

1292
00:55:33,260 --> 00:55:30,570
would you expect

1293
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:33,270
Amy magic digital signal influence

1294
00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:34,890
filled with synchronicity to look like

1295
00:55:39,170 --> 00:55:37,590
if not this story I find it pretty

1296
00:55:41,690 --> 00:55:39,180
interesting and I don't even care about

1297
00:55:43,630 --> 00:55:41,700
Trump I don't like Trump I just think

1298
00:55:45,590 --> 00:55:43,640
this idea of an ancient Egyptian

1299
00:55:47,060 --> 00:55:45,600
personification of chaos throwing a

1300
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:47,070
wrench and what should have been one of

1301
00:55:52,010 --> 00:55:48,810
the most predictable elections in my

1302
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:52,020
lifetime is provocative as hell if this

1303
00:55:55,370 --> 00:55:54,210
kind of thing is possible why

1304
00:55:58,670 --> 00:55:55,380
wouldn't this be one of the best

1305
00:56:00,589 --> 00:55:58,680
examples of it personally I think the CD

1306
00:56:03,230 --> 00:56:00,599
the Pokemon game and the Trump real

1307
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:03,240
estate tycoon game are just amazing

1308
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:06,089
exhibits a B and C I've yet to really

1309
00:56:10,310 --> 00:56:08,010
talk to anyone else who's knowledgeable

1310
00:56:12,620 --> 00:56:10,320
about magic to see what they think but

1311
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:12,630
it's definitely piqued my interest it

1312
00:56:14,690 --> 00:56:14,250
will be intriguing to see if it goes any

1313
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:14,700
further

1314
00:56:19,970 --> 00:56:17,609
or if it sort of just fades away in the

1315
00:56:21,530 --> 00:56:19,980
election aftermath maybe Keck will

1316
00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:21,540
transform the Western world by

1317
00:56:26,180 --> 00:56:23,369
influencing other elections around the

1318
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:26,190
globe and I'm so divided on if I think

1319
00:56:30,170 --> 00:56:27,930
that's even a good thing or not of

1320
00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:30,180
course I'm not a globalist but I'm also

1321
00:56:34,690 --> 00:56:32,790
not a conservative guy definitely not a

1322
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:34,700
white nationalist in fact when I started

1323
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:37,770
THC it really was the only conspiracy

1324
00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:39,330
show without a conservative or a

1325
00:56:43,940 --> 00:56:41,880
Christian tilt and I kind of liked being

1326
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:43,950
a more neutral or even left-leaning

1327
00:56:49,250 --> 00:56:47,250
perspective but liberalism has changed

1328
00:56:50,570 --> 00:56:49,260
in the last 10 years it's gone full

1329
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:50,580
circle from being what I used to

1330
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:52,890
consider an affiliation for free speech

1331
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:55,530
advocates to now wanting safe spaces and

1332
00:57:00,920 --> 00:56:58,050
condemning any words that hurt feelings

1333
00:57:02,780 --> 00:57:00,930
and it's just kind of gross I used to

1334
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:02,790
look at conservatives and see them is

1335
00:57:06,980 --> 00:57:04,650
way too serious with the stick up their

1336
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:06,990
ass religious and humorless and that

1337
00:57:12,589 --> 00:57:09,510
tide has turned but the real point here

1338
00:57:14,210 --> 00:57:12,599
is that liberalism has been a vehicle

1339
00:57:16,970 --> 00:57:14,220
for the one world government and

1340
00:57:19,130 --> 00:57:16,980
globalism if you don't support the full

1341
00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:19,140
homogeneous ation of everything then

1342
00:57:21,260 --> 00:57:20,910
you're racist that's what they're doing

1343
00:57:24,410 --> 00:57:21,270
right now

1344
00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:24,420
and conservative moves like brexit or

1345
00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:26,760
even a Trump win are considered the

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00:57:32,030 --> 00:57:29,520
resistance to that tide so that's

1347
00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:32,040
interesting the truth is there are just

1348
00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:33,960
too many opinions and too many degrees

1349
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:35,880
of scale to even sum it up in a few

1350
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:37,890
sentences but there does seem to be

1351
00:57:42,980 --> 00:57:40,410
major changes to what some of those

1352
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:42,990
worldviews represent I've stopped trying

1353
00:57:46,609 --> 00:57:44,910
to define how I think it should be and

1354
00:57:48,740 --> 00:57:46,619
instead just try to get a better handle

1355
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:48,750
on how it is what difference does it

1356
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:50,310
really make how I feel about something

1357
00:57:54,109 --> 00:57:52,050
or how productive is it to spend time

1358
00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:54,119
saying well it'd be much better if we

1359
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:56,760
did X when really I don't have any say

1360
00:58:01,040 --> 00:57:59,040
in the matter I guess it's an effect of

1361
00:58:02,660 --> 00:58:01,050
this election and post election cycle

1362
00:58:04,730 --> 00:58:02,670
everyone has such a strong opinion about

1363
00:58:07,339 --> 00:58:04,740
this or that usually saying the same

1364
00:58:08,030 --> 00:58:07,349
sentences it's a major pundit it's just

1365
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:08,040
kind of turned me

1366
00:58:12,590 --> 00:58:10,290
off from all of it I know so many people

1367
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:12,600
who have cried over the selection or

1368
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:14,880
they say they've been depressed since it

1369
00:58:19,070 --> 00:58:17,010
happened I know people who are signing

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00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:19,080
petitions to keep Trump from speaking in

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00:58:23,180 --> 00:58:21,450
their state and the joke keeps getting

1372
00:58:25,310 --> 00:58:23,190
made this is what happens when you give

1373
00:58:27,350 --> 00:58:25,320
everyone participation trophies and it's

1374
00:58:30,110 --> 00:58:27,360
kind of true a lot of people my age

1375
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:30,120
liberal-leaning people they think their

1376
00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:32,370
opinion matters and that they should

1377
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:34,230
have some say and it should have some

1378
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,720
sway and the cold hard truth is that it

1379
00:58:40,340 --> 00:58:38,640
doesn't really mean [\h__\h] the empire

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00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:40,350
marches on and the middle class is

1381
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:42,510
exploited and they're laughing at us in

1382
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:45,330
our stupid petitions ignore the things

1383
00:58:49,580 --> 00:58:47,490
you can't control and work on just being

1384
00:58:51,290 --> 00:58:49,590
a better you I think a lot of people who

1385
00:58:53,180 --> 00:58:51,300
aren't happy with their place in life

1386
00:58:55,790 --> 00:58:53,190
and are afraid to really confront that

1387
00:58:58,310 --> 00:58:55,800
focus on the media's story of the week

1388
00:58:59,930 --> 00:58:58,320
instead I'll just retweet about black

1389
00:59:01,730 --> 00:58:59,940
lives matter instead of working on a

1390
00:59:04,130 --> 00:59:01,740
business plan for myself or I'll just

1391
00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:04,140
share some more links about Trump being

1392
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:06,510
a misogynist instead of going to the gym

1393
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:08,640
I know people struggling paycheck to

1394
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:10,650
paycheck who probably invest dozens of

1395
00:59:15,410 --> 00:59:12,960
hours a week to Facebook political

1396
00:59:17,150 --> 00:59:15,420
commentary and posting random articles I

1397
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:17,160
agree with this one guys and I don't

1398
00:59:21,260 --> 00:59:19,110
agree with this one and it's kind of a

1399
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:21,270
big circle jerk to know where it's

1400
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:22,890
probably wiser to just sit back and

1401
00:59:27,650 --> 00:59:26,130
observe or even ignore ever heard the

1402
00:59:29,330 --> 00:59:27,660
saying that we have two ears and one

1403
00:59:31,460 --> 00:59:29,340
mouth because we're supposed to listen

1404
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:31,470
twice as much as we talk I think there

1405
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:33,330
might be some truth to that especially

1406
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:35,910
in the social media age but I'm deaf in

1407
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:37,110
one year so I don't know how that works

1408
00:59:42,110 --> 00:59:40,170
for me and that was a hell of a tangent

1409
00:59:44,660 --> 00:59:42,120
it just happens when Trump gets brought

1410
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:44,670
up everyone is so polarized about it it

1411
00:59:49,070 --> 00:59:46,650
takes some explanation just to kind of

1412
00:59:50,690 --> 00:59:49,080
get to the center anymore either way I

1413
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:50,700
definitely thought this was a good show

1414
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:52,710
topic if you're like me you've seen this

1415
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:54,690
Pepe meme and wondered what the hell it

1416
01:00:00,140 --> 00:59:57,810
was about now we kind of know but we

1417
01:00:01,460 --> 01:00:00,150
can't fully know can we that just seems

1418
01:00:03,830 --> 01:00:01,470
to be the nature of these things

1419
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:03,840
hope you're all navigating the thorny

1420
01:00:07,370 --> 01:00:05,610
holiday season as well as you can I'll

1421
01:00:10,580 --> 01:00:07,380
see you in just a few days with the last

1422
01:00:17,609 --> 01:00:10,590
show of 2016 I've done my part

1423
01:00:23,620 --> 01:00:20,949
lucid dreams are so vivid cuz you go to

1424
01:00:26,650 --> 01:00:23,630
bed at 7:00 and your brain comes alive

1425
01:00:29,319 --> 01:00:26,660
cuz your hatred 9:00 to 5:00 you wake up

1426
01:00:31,779 --> 01:00:29,329
with a dread and make sure your cats are

1427
01:00:34,089 --> 01:00:31,789
fed did your brain talk to a ghost who

1428
01:00:38,169 --> 01:00:34,099
moved your coffee and your toast as you

1429
01:00:40,779 --> 01:00:38,179
listen to the higher side chats you get

1430
01:00:43,449 --> 01:00:40,789
to your desk and your boss says it's a

1431
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:43,459
mess and your soul slowly goes to a

1432
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:45,920
place when nothing grows when you think

1433
01:00:53,439 --> 01:00:50,049
he's not around you insert a SETI sound

1434
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:53,449
the eom says turn it down and you say

1435
01:01:00,849 --> 01:00:57,920
it's just the higher side chats Oh do

1436
01:01:05,769 --> 01:01:00,859
you think you'll be invited to Bohemian

1437
01:01:09,429 --> 01:01:05,779
Grove to a Bilderberg Club oh do you

1438
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:09,439
think could be invited by roster to a

1439
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:18,260
to the center of the earth to the

1440
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:20,910
Marianas Trench your teeth begin to

1441
01:01:29,210 --> 01:01:24,930
clench from the sulphureus stench the

1442
01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:29,220
mask you give in doesn't fit cuz you're

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01:01:33,230 --> 01:01:31,180
not one of the

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01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:33,240
[Music]

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01:01:38,790 --> 01:01:36,190
starting today you'll make plans to get

1446
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:38,800
away there's no one to hold you down and

1447
01:01:44,370 --> 01:01:41,530
the what if start to drown then you wake

1448
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:44,380
to the glare of a co fluorescent stare

1449
01:01:49,590 --> 01:01:47,230
and the light winks at you cuz its life

1450
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:49,600
is almost through but it's holding gone

1451
01:02:12,880 --> 01:01:53,440
to quit time just like you it's time for

1452
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:15,199
hey guys thanks for listening to the

1453
01:02:19,099 --> 01:02:16,799
first hour of the higher side chats

1454
01:02:21,170 --> 01:02:19,109
podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you

1455
01:02:23,539 --> 01:02:21,180
don't know there is a second hour to all

1456
01:02:25,249 --> 01:02:23,549
the episodes we do around here generally

1457
01:02:26,989 --> 01:02:25,259
we're able to get a lot deeper into the

1458
01:02:28,999 --> 01:02:26,999
topics and ideas that a guest is about

1459
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:29,009
so if you enjoyed what you've heard from

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01:02:34,339 --> 01:02:32,130
THC for free consider signing up at the

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01:02:36,289 --> 01:02:34,349
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1462
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:36,299
second hour of the 5 shows I put

1463
01:02:40,519 --> 01:02:38,640
together each month I never really

1464
01:02:42,229 --> 01:02:40,529
wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast

1465
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:42,239
but I really hate the idea of spending

1466
01:02:46,339 --> 01:02:44,249
airtime promoting some product that's

1467
01:02:47,989 --> 01:02:46,349
completely unrelated and telling you the

1468
01:02:50,749 --> 01:02:47,999
best way to support the show is to buy

1469
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an audio book or new underwear by mail

1470
01:02:54,979 --> 01:02:52,469
or something crazy like that so instead

1471
01:02:56,599 --> 01:02:54,989
if you like the show double your time

1472
01:02:58,699 --> 01:02:56,609
with it for five bucks a month and let's

1473
01:03:00,349 --> 01:02:58,709
cut out all the other [\h__\h] it's half the

1474
01:03:02,089 --> 01:03:00,359
price of a movie ticket and you get at

1475
01:03:04,699 --> 01:03:02,099
least an extra five hours of show a

1476
01:03:06,529 --> 01:03:04,709
month collectively it keeps us stable

1477
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:06,539
and it frees me from wasting your time

1478
01:03:10,670 --> 01:03:08,130
with anything but the show you came to

1479
01:03:12,650 --> 01:03:10,680
listen to it's really the only way for

1480
01:03:14,449 --> 01:03:12,660
an independent one-man show to make it

1481
01:03:16,699 --> 01:03:14,459
and I do what I can so that it's worth

1482
01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:16,709
your while since we started this I've

1483
01:03:20,689 --> 01:03:18,660
always tried to use the subscriptions to

1484
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:20,699
improve the podcast and make signups

1485
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:23,249
more advantageous it started with just a

1486
01:03:26,839 --> 01:03:25,170
second hour for the main show but now

1487
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:26,849
we've got a nice forum going where

1488
01:03:30,589 --> 01:03:28,890
people can get deeper in conversation

1489
01:03:33,499 --> 01:03:30,599
about the episodes with other listeners

1490
01:03:35,349 --> 01:03:33,509
submit a candidate in the guest request

1491
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:35,359
thread or share their own personal

1492
01:03:39,469 --> 01:03:37,440
projects to get out of the soul-crushing

1493
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:39,479
nine-to-five cog in the wheel life on

1494
01:03:43,549 --> 01:03:42,089
the entrepreneurs thread the forum in

1495
01:03:45,469 --> 01:03:43,559
the Plus comments are always the first

1496
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:45,479
places I try to go for listener

1497
01:03:50,089 --> 01:03:47,910
engagement but it does get harder as the

1498
01:03:51,949 --> 01:03:50,099
show gets more popular because of that

1499
01:03:53,390 --> 01:03:51,959
there's also a direct messaging feature

1500
01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:53,400
that you can use to reach me through the

1501
01:03:57,859 --> 01:03:56,249
plus site also but beyond the forum if

1502
01:04:00,049 --> 01:03:57,869
you like any of the music I've used for

1503
01:04:01,819 --> 01:04:00,059
THC most of it I've hired artists to

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01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:01,829
make and I provided all as free

1505
01:04:05,509 --> 01:04:04,079
downloads to plus members too so if you

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01:04:07,729 --> 01:04:05,519
like a particular song you've heard

1507
01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:07,739
close the show out recently come get the

1508
01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:10,140
mp3 I should also mention that if you

1509
01:04:14,420 --> 01:04:12,089
don't like the idea of paying $5

1510
01:04:16,609 --> 01:04:14,430
recurring every month I get that you can

1511
01:04:18,979 --> 01:04:16,619
buy three months six months or a year

1512
01:04:20,689 --> 01:04:18,989
upfront and just be done with it I have

1513
01:04:22,860 --> 01:04:20,699
plenty of listeners who send checks and

1514
01:04:24,810 --> 01:04:22,870
money orders to the PIO box too

1515
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:24,820
I try to make it as easy for people as I

1516
01:04:28,380 --> 01:04:26,410
can and you can read more about it on

1517
01:04:30,930 --> 01:04:28,390
the signup page also be sure to check

1518
01:04:32,340 --> 01:04:30,940
out the FAQ help page on the plus site

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01:04:33,620 --> 01:04:32,350
if you have any questions or concerns

1520
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:33,630
about how to listen to a

1521
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:35,680
password-protected show on your devices

1522
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:37,570
I've highlighted a lot of great

1523
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:39,850
solutions and one of those would be the

1524
01:04:44,460 --> 01:04:41,890
iPhone app that just recently hit the

1525
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:44,470
Apple App Store a super kind and

1526
01:04:48,420 --> 01:04:46,570
talented listener made it for us and you

1527
01:04:50,580 --> 01:04:48,430
can use it to stream or download either

1528
01:04:53,550 --> 01:04:50,590
the free or the plus show if you're on

1529
01:04:55,140 --> 01:04:53,560
Android I'd use pocket casts or podcast

1530
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:55,150
addict and subscribe to the feed

1531
01:05:00,420 --> 01:04:57,730
manually that way I also try to throw an

1532
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:00,430
occasional bonus shows or QA shows and

1533
01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:02,410
I've got a few other weird ideas I might

1534
01:05:06,510 --> 01:05:04,600
get to try out soon but I give you all I

1535
01:05:08,190 --> 01:05:06,520
can for five bucks and I hope you'll at

1536
01:05:09,900 --> 01:05:08,200
least give it a shot if you've listened

1537
01:05:11,670 --> 01:05:09,910
to a few free shows and you find them

1538
01:05:13,470 --> 01:05:11,680
unique or valuable I know there's a lot

1539
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:13,480
of podcasts out there and I'm just one

1540
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:15,610
of them but if you have any questions

1541
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:17,440
concerns or comments about any of this

1542
01:05:21,810 --> 01:05:18,970
please get in touch with us at the

1543
01:05:23,790 --> 01:05:21,820
higher side chats team @ gmail.com I

1544
01:05:25,170 --> 01:05:23,800
also wanted to plug the higher side

1545
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:25,180
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1546
01:05:29,250 --> 01:05:27,010
totally free for anyone who wants to

1547
01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:29,260
sign up at the main Internet web site

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you can also get on that email list

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through the higher side chats Facebook

1551
01:05:39,090 --> 01:05:37,630
page there's a button there as well but

1552
01:05:41,610 --> 01:05:39,100
the reason I'm doing this is because I

1553
01:05:43,470 --> 01:05:41,620
get tons and tons of emails after a show

1554
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:43,480
goes up asking me about how I feel about

1555
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:45,610
a particular guest or topic and the

1556
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:47,170
wrap-up isn't always the best place to

1557
01:05:51,150 --> 01:05:49,090
do that especially if I have anything

1558
01:05:53,010 --> 01:05:51,160
negative to say sometimes the dust needs

1559
01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:53,020
to settle sometimes I need to hear

1560
01:05:57,060 --> 01:05:55,510
feedback from you guys first there are a

1561
01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:57,070
lot of factors but I usually have

1562
01:06:00,120 --> 01:05:58,690
something to communicate to you and I

1563
01:06:02,010 --> 01:06:00,130
just don't get to do it

1564
01:06:03,630 --> 01:06:02,020
so on the first of the month I plan to

1565
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:03,640
send out a little newsletter with my

1566
01:06:07,020 --> 01:06:05,170
thoughts about the five shows the

1567
01:06:09,030 --> 01:06:07,030
previous month and talk to you about

1568
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:09,040
anything else that's on my mind or

1569
01:06:12,930 --> 01:06:11,410
that's going on and what's probably most

1570
01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:12,940
enticing is that I'm going to give you

1571
01:06:17,130 --> 01:06:14,950
some insight into at least one guest I

1572
01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:17,140
have coming up in the month which people

1573
01:06:21,150 --> 01:06:18,880
have been begging for some posted

1574
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:21,160
schedule for a long time I personally

1575
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:23,290
think I'd like the surprise but sign up

1576
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for the higher side newsletter it's free

1577
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it comes out on the 1st of the month and

1578
01:06:31,170 --> 01:06:28,420
I won't waste your time with any other

1579
01:06:32,850 --> 01:06:31,180
emails and that's it I appreciate you

1580
01:06:35,010 --> 01:06:32,860
listening I try to give alternative

1581
01:06:36,490 --> 01:06:35,020
ideas and guess a fair shake on a high

1582
01:06:38,380 --> 01:06:36,500
quality podcast

1583
01:06:40,450 --> 01:06:38,390
exposed some deep level conspiracies

1584
01:06:42,190 --> 01:06:40,460
without the yelling and I hope to offer

1585
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:42,200
some inspiration that even though the

1586
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:44,330
system relentlessly suggests you should

1587
01:06:48,460 --> 01:06:46,640
follow their blueprint to mediocrity you

1588
01:06:50,770 --> 01:06:48,470
can do your own thing and live a much

1589
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:50,780
happier life despite all the negativity